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TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS
Fair Work Act 2009                                                    

 

JUSTICE ROSS, PRESIDENT
VICE PRESIDENT CATANZARITI
SENIOR DEPUTY PRESIDENT DRAKE
SENIOR DEPUTY PRESIDENT RICHARDS
DEPUTY PRESIDENT ASBURY
COMMISSIONER SPENCER
COMMISSIONER SIMPSON
COMMISSIONER HUNT

 

 

CEREMONIAL SITTING OF THE FAIR WORK COMMISSION TO WELCOME COMMISSIONER HUNT

 

 

 

Speakers:

MR ADRIAN BREEN, REPRESENTING THE MINISTER

MS ROS McLENNAN, FOR ACTU

MS ALANA MATHESON, FOR ACCI

MR STEPHEN SMITH, FOR AiG

 

 

 

Brisbane

 

9.04 AM, TUESDAY, 1 MARCH 2016


PN1          

JUSTICE ROSS:  Mr Breen.

PN2          

MR BREEN:  If it pleases the Commission.  Good morning, Mr President and members of the Fair Work Commission, and the representatives from industry, the trade union movement and the legal profession who are with us today.  And of course I welcome and acknowledge Commissioner Hunt and your family who are also with us today.  The Australian Government on whose behalf I speak today is very pleased to take part in these proceedings.  The Minister for Employment, Senator the Honourable Michaelia Cash, was unfortunately unable to be here today but I do wish to pass on her congratulations to you, Commissioner.

PN3          

The Fair Work Commission, as Australia's national workplace relations tribunal, is an esteemed institution in this country with a history of over 100 years and which now handles the majority of workplaces in Australia.  This institution and its predecessors have an extremely important function in this country and presided over some of the most significant decisions to have shaped the nation's industrial landscape that remains closely interwoven in the industrial fabric of Australia, and as the national economy changes it will continue to play an important part in shaping the workplace relations framework into the future.

PN4          

The Fair Work Commission's guiding principles reflect its importance and heritage - equity, good conscience and the merits of the matter.  It is required to exercise its powers and performance functions under the Fair Work Act 2009 in a manner which is fair and just, open and transparent, and which promotes harmonious and cooperative workplace relations.

PN5          

Commissioner Hunt, as a new member of the Commission I know you are highly qualified to undertake this task.  You graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce from the University of Wollongong in 1995 and attained a Bachelor of Laws from the University of Technology Sydney in 2002.  Since your first appointment as an industrial advocate for Australian Business Limited in 1995 you have developed an outstanding career supporting major Australian corporations, including Manpower Services, TNT and Toll Holdings, where you have most recently been Manager, Group Employee Relations, Industrial Relations.  In this time you have demonstrated exemplary skills, abilities and leadership in the practice of industrial and employee relations.

PN6          

Additionally, throughout your career you have undertaken a wide variety of roles within the purview of corporate law and corporate governance, such as negotiation and drafting of instruments, a role as company secretary, and all aspects of enterprise bargaining, to name just a few highlights.  You also have extensive advocacy experience, including in arbitrated matters in the Fair Work Commission, so you're well‑placed to anticipate the issues that may be presented to you as a commissioner.  The Fair Work Commission and the nation as a whole stands to gain much from your appointment.

PN7          

The calibre of women and men appointed to the Fair Work Commission must be high and they must show good judgment.  The Australian Government is confident that you will perform your duties as a commissioner of the Fair Work Commission fairly, impartially and effectively.  Your addition to the Fair Work Commission will only further enhance the important work performed by this honourable institution.  Congratulations.  If it pleases the Commission.

PN8          

MS MATHESON:  If the Commission pleases.  On behalf of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry and its members, it is a great pleasure to welcome the appointment of Commissioner Hunt to the Fair Work Commission.  Commissioner Hunt, we acknowledge the vast experience you have obtained in the field of workplace relations.  It has developed over the course of your career as an industrial advocate, as an in‑house counsel, in a multinational provider of workplace solutions, and by employee relations management roles within the transport and logistics industry.

PN9          

You come with experience in all manner of workplace relations matters, including enterprise bargaining, negotiations, establishing employment governance frameworks, performance management, workplace investigations, dispute resolution, management of unfair dismissal and general protections claims, as well as management of work, health and safety matters.  Those who have worked with you have attested to your competence as a lawyer and workplace relations practitioner.  The Australian Chamber counts among its members the Chambers of Commerce from the eight states and territories plus 55 industry associations.  You are familiar with the work of the Chamber network and the businesses represented within that network, having commenced your industrial relations career as industrial advocate for ABL within the Illawarra Business Chamber, providing services to employers of all sizes across a range of industries.

PN10        

You are fortunate to have established your career within the Illawarra region, a region with a rich, industrial history.  The steel industry was a catalyst for growth across the region's economy, supporting its standing as one of Australia's leading industrial centres.  Steel and other manufacturing industries remain an essential part of the local economy; however, businesses investing in the region are diverse in science and traverse tourism, hospitality, health services, telecommunication and a range of other sectors.  Your knowledge and experience across this wide range of industries including ports, manufacturing and construction to small, family‑run service sector businesses will undoubtedly assist you in discharging your duties.

PN11        

As your industrial career progressed you travelled north along the coastline to the Cronulla Sutherland Shire where you established yourself as a key member of the Shire community.  The Fair Work Commission is sometimes referred to as the industrial umpire, and it's worth reflecting on your experience gained from your personal life, where you have already achieved success in your capacity as an umpire.  Notably, you became the most senior female referee within the Cronulla Sutherland District Rugby Football League Referees' Association, securing an A‑Grade appointment.  You established yourself as a highly‑respected referee among senior and junior players and officials, selected for the New South Wales Referees' Association Coaching and Development Committee, receiving wide recognition for your achievements and numerous community awards.  At the time of your A‑Grade appointment, the Daily Telegraph quoted you as saying that you couldn't remember the last time a punch had been thrown at any of your games.  We are confident that matters over which you preside will also be free of such incidents.  Commanding respect within one of the toughest contact sports, it seems you have developed a knack for promoting harmony within a diverse range of settings.  Commissioner Hunt, while this institution is far removed from the football field, we are confident that you will establish yourself as a highly‑respected member of the Fair Work Commission and will continue to be fair and just in the performance of your role as an industrial umpire.

PN12        

Having completed a long tenure as an in‑house counsel and moving into the transport and logistics industry and employee relations management roles, you most recently followed the coastline further north to Brisbane where we find ourselves today.  With contemporary Australian workplaces facing economic challenges and new opportunities in equal measure, the Australian Chamber and our members are confident that your diverse experience across regions and sectors will enable you to make a very positive and immediate and ongoing contribution to the work of this Commission.  Commissioner Hunt, we congratulate you on your appointment and wish you well.  May it please the Commission.

PN13        

MS MCLENNAN:  May it please the Commission.  Members of the Commission, my colleague representatives, distinguished guests and families and friends of Commissioner Hunt, it is my great pleasure today to represent the Australian Council of Trade Unions in welcoming Commissioner Hunt to this tribunal and congratulating her on her appointment.  I bring with me the warmest wishes and also the apologies of the ACTU officers who are themselves unable to be here to welcome and congratulate you in person today.

PN14        

This commission is a critically important institution in shaping Australia as a fairer society.  As a society we accept that this tribunal is necessary and we accept its work is important.  We accept those things because we accept the orthodox view about the inequalities inherent to labour markets and the necessities of institutions to introduce balance.

PN15        

Commissioner, you bring with you the practical experience of private sector industrial relations, recently as the Employee and Industrial Relations Manager at Toll Holdings Ltd.  This most recent position comes on top of considerable experience in representing employers within industrial tribunals.  This is undoubtedly very invaluable experience and preparation for membership of this commission.

PN16        

On behalf of the Australian Union Movement, I warmly welcome and congratulate you on taking the oath of office as a member of the Fair Work Commission.  We really look forward to working with you.  May it please the Commission.

PN17        

MR SMITH:  If it pleases the Commission, it's a great pleasure to be invited to address you at this ceremonial sitting of the Fair Work Commission to welcome Commissioner Hunt.  The Australian Industry Group is a very longstanding customer of the Commission.  Our workplace relations staff appear before the Commission virtually every day.  We're well‑aware of the essential work that the Commission carries out in preventing and resolving disputes and dealing with a very wide and increasing range of collective and individual workplace relations matters.  The Commission and its predecessors have a very long and proud history.  The Commission enjoys the strong support of the community and this is due to its independence and the skills and experience of its members.

PN18        

Commissioner Hunt will add further valuable skills and experience to the tribunal.  The Commissioner has had a distinguished career in the private sector working in senior roles at Toll, TNT and Manpower, and I've had regular discussions with the Commissioner in each of those roles.  For the past 17 years, I believe it is, the Commissioner has represented those three companies, and in doing so she's taken an active interest in the development of Ai Group's policies and in the many major cases that we've been involved in over those years.  I've always been impressed with Commissioner Hunt's knowledge of workplace relations laws and instruments and her strategic approach to issues.

PN19        

During the Commissioner's time at Manpower there were some very big cases.  There were lots of major government and parliamentary inquiries of great importance to the labour hire industry.  The labour hire industry grew very rapidly in those days, and of course Manpower is one of the largest organisations in the world in that industry.  Key cases that we were involved in and the Commissioner was involved in through Ai Group was the metal industry casual employment case, the New South Wales secure employment test case, the award modernisation process and many others of relevance to the labour hire industry.  The Commissioner was involved with Ai Group's PIR policy influence and reform forum as well as other Ai Group forums and working parties set up from time‑to‑time to deal with labour hire industry issues, road transport issues and other policy issues.

PN20        

I know that the Commissioner was also a longstanding member of the RCSA's workplace relations committee, and she made a major contribution to the policy work carried out for the labour hire industry by that organisation as well.  In more recent times at Toll and TNT, the Commissioner has been involved with Ai Group in working through the many complexities of the Road Safety Remuneration Act and the activities of the RSR Tribunal, and I'm sure her knowledge will be a valuable addition to the work of that tribunal.

PN21        

Commissioner Hunt has displayed a longstanding interest in workplace relations law and practice and in workplace relations policy work, and I'm sure that the Commissioner will make an excellent Fair Work Commission member and will demonstrate the competence, wisdom and fairness that the Commission is widely respected for.

PN22        

Commissioner, Ai Group's members, our national executive, our Queensland branch counsel and all Ai Group's staff wish you well and the best of success in meeting the goals and objectives of the Commission.  May it please the Commission.

PN23        

JUSTICE ROSS:  Commissioner Hunt.

PN24        

COMMISSIONER HUNT:  Thank you, President.  Many thanks to Mr Breen for representing the government in welcoming me to the Fair Work Commission.  It is the greatest honour in my working career to have been appointed to this commission.  Please convey my thanks to the Minister for Employment, and thank you for representing her so ably here today.  My deepest gratitude to Ms Matheson and Mr Smith for attending today, having travelled from Sydney to speak.  Stephen, we have worked together on employee matters for a very long time.  From 1999 the Australian Industry Group sought out IR practitioners in the labour hire industry or on‑hire as it became to be known.  The AIG helped to bring together a diverse group of views and lend them to help form policy and add weight to lobbying endeavours.  Through both AIG and the RCSA, the on‑hire industry in the first decade of the new century had a strong and powerful voice.  Alana, thanks to you and the ACCI for its belief in me.  I look forward to following your stellar career and I am grateful that we had the opportunity to meet several years ago.  And many thanks to you, Ms McLennan.  While we've not yet had any matters to date, I'm delighted to share with you that in the 20‑plus years that I have been involved in industrial relations I have always found union representatives in Queensland to be fair, objective and reasonable.

PN25        

To all of you, family, friends, colleagues, distinguished guests, including many past members of this institution in its earlier incarnations, thank you to each of you.  I am honoured that you are all here today to acknowledge and celebrate my appointment.

PN26        

I was raised in the Sutherland Shire in Sydney of very hard‑working parents.  I recall my father having up to three jobs at a time.  His main job was as an accountant at the Bank of New South Wales and he supplemented the family's income by working at a bottle shop on weekends and as a bookies clerk at the races.  Mum took in ironing and cleaned homes and later worked as a personal care assistant.  They did well to raise five children on a very modest income and holidays were few and far between.  There was never much money left from the fortnightly pay but we never missed out on playing sport or other activities.  We were quite proudly middle‑class.  After attending opportunity class in years 5 and 6, I was offered a scholarship to attend a private girls school in Sydney, however, my family declined it on the basis that I would be unable to keep up with the expense of extra activities.  I attended the local public high school along with my twin brother.  My father was incredibly proud of my academic achievements and insisted that I pursue a career as a solicitor.  Despite my father's protestations, I developed an interest in journalism, having talked my way into the Sydney Morning Herald and allowing me to do work experience when they no longer offered it.  I wouldn't take no for an answer, so I found a journalist's name in the paper, looked him up in the White Pages, rang him at home and convinced him that he should look after me for a week, and he did.

PN27        

Tragically, my father passed suddenly just two weeks after we had celebrated his 50th birthday and the 18th birthday of my twin and me.  It had been wonderful sharing a birthday with a brother and our father, and just two weeks after having completed the HSC he was gone.  Three months later I commenced my commerce degree at the University of Wollongong.  In the first semester we had all of the usual core subjects to do and in the second semester there was a smorgasbord of electives from which to choose.  Accounting and Marketing didn't leap at me, but then I saw I could study Industrial Relations, and from my first lecture I knew that this was what I wanted to do.

PN28        

In the last year of study a fellow named Geoff Stevenson of the Chamber of Manufactures of New South Wales came to speak to students at a cocktail night put on by the uni, convincing us to join the Industrial Relations Society.  We had a wonderful night with Geoff entertaining us with IR war stories.  We ended up at the Illawarra Hotel where, not surprisingly in the early 1990s, a lot of IR was done.  I kept Geoff's acquaintance, and when he was looking for somebody to fill his shoes at the Chamber he knew that I was a good candidate, not only because of my interest in IR and good grades but because he knew that I could talk IR over a beer.  And there's a lesson here for young IR practitioners - I suggest buy the older guy a beer because one day he may give you a job.

PN29        

I relished my time at the Chamber, later becoming the Australian Business Chamber.  I was a 21‑year‑old industrial advocate running unfair dismissal conciliations back when they were done in person, I was negotiating enterprise agreements, and turning up to the State and Federal commissions and trying to look older than my years.  After four years the members must have considered that I had done a decent job as I had members ringing me after I had left asking me I'd continue to negotiate their agreements.

PN30        

I am indebted to many of the characters I came across during these formative years in my IR career.  I used to appear before a particular tribunal member who would take turns with the advocates to give them a hard time.  I used to pray that it wasn't my turn, but around 50 per cent of the time I would walk out of that court room having been taught a lesson, not just in IR but in life.  I thank the CFMEU organiser who once sat down and explained to me the special redundancy clauses contained within the building awards before I made a fool of myself in front of my member.  I certainly didn't know it all.  My greatest thanks go to the older gentlemen in the long room of the Chamber.  The long room houses the telephone advice line advisers.  I used to sit with them and listen to them give advice over the phone and wonder how it was they knew all of this information.  They would talk about the silent 1/12th annual leave in the New South Wales Holidays Act.  I'd go looking for it and I couldn't find it, and then they'd explain the magic to me.

PN31        

I joined Manpower and then spent the next 14 years there.  Early on in the piece I completed my law degree and was admitted to the Supreme Court of New South Wales.  I thought that might be pinnacle of my career, however, today clearly eclipses that.  With 5000 employees across many industries, it was a very broad scope of work.  I enjoyed working with the RCSA and AIG on industry matters, most notably the New South Wales Secure Employment Test Case, and I was often called upon to be a witness in industry matters and appear before Full Benches of the AIRC.  I had amazing bosses at Manpower throughout my time there, and I thank them for the opportunity to allow me to work autonomously and take on the commercial work to becoming joint Company Secretary and negotiating contracts, including the largest RPO in the world at the time, Defence Force Recruiting.

PN32        

Around this time I also joined the committee of the Industrial Relations Society of New South Wales and worked with many of the practitioners and academics across the field.  IR societies are a wonderful institution.  They are also a great place to allow younger practitioners to mix with more experienced practitioners and members of tribunals on mutual ground.  Having left Manpower I then joined TNT and enjoyed so much the opportunity to work intensively in the one industry.  I was there for only two years before I was asked to join Toll.  I did so, jumping at the opportunity to try out a new State, and moved from Sydney to Brisbane with the family.  I also took the role because it meant that I'd be working with great IR practitioners in Tony Wilks and Damian Sloan.

PN33        

Throughout my IR career I have had a second persona, being a rugby league referee.  For 16 years on field I refereed men and adolescent games.  I hope that parties appearing before me in the Commission will recognise that I bring impartiality and fairness.  I only have ever had to dismiss around five people from the field in all of that time, as I like to keep all of the players on the field and talk them out of trouble.  I always found that the players were respectful, even when this might have been their first experience with a female referee.  When they knew exactly what they could and couldn't get away with it made for a better game.  I will, I hope, bring a calm and steady hand to the parties before the Commission.

PN34        

I wish to thank very much all of the members and staff of the Commission for their kind interest in my appointment and the generosity that they have shown in making me feel welcome.  In particular, thanks to my associate, Nahum, for so ably getting me up and running.  To my friends here today, many thanks, especially to Stephanie and Simone - you cheer me up and cheer me on.  Thank you for travelling from Sydney for this special occasion.  To Patricia, my wonderful mother‑in‑law, your love and support means so much.  Joel, you've always been with me and beside me for 15 years, and without your loving support we would not be here today.  Thank you for your patience and understanding when at times I've been working on a document until 3 am or have taken work with me on holidays.

PN35        

I am of course delighted to hold the title Commissioner, but my favourite title is mum.  To my sons, Brendan and Andrew, and twin daughters, Melanie and Danielle, I hope you will all remember this day in the years to come and know that if you work hard and dream big your dreams can come true.  I know that my father would be incredibly proud of me today.  In memorial I thank him for showing me the values of work ethic and dedication.  I am looking forward to this new chapter in my life, and I am truly honoured by this appointment and the opportunity to serve the Australian public through the performance of my functions as a member of the Commission.  To work alongside colleagues before whom I have appeared over the years and to be part of an institution that plays such an important role in shaping the lives of so many Australians is a privilege and a position which carries great responsibility, which I will seek to honourably discharge.  Thank you.

PN36        

JUSTICE ROSS:  Before we adjourn I'll shortly invite the Commissioner to take the oath of office.  The Commission has already of course taken the oath in a formal sense, but it's important that she does so on this very public occasion.  It's important because the oath represents a contract between the Commission member and the public which we serve.  It's a contract by which we promise to faithfully and impartially perform the duties of our officers.

PN37        

COMMISSIONER HUNT:  I, Jennifer Lee Hunt, do swear that I will bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law, that I will well and truly serve her in the office of Commissioner of the Fair Work Commission and that I will faithfully and impartially perform the duties of the office, so help me God.

ADJOURNED INDEFINITELY                                                          [9.29 AM]